NCAA recruitin and graduation rates

[DJP]

if they let young people play college ball because they could play ball-and not worry about if they have armed robbery charge or graduated high school- how much bigger would the talent pool be in the nba and ncaa??

[gcdevil22]

honestly not too much bigger...if you can't pass high school there's a good chance you've been dealt a seriously awful hand, or you're a high-functioning retard...kids like that aren't going to function well in a team environment anyway

[CoeburnCane]

even duke, who has a really high rate, does not have that many kids who leave early, as opposed to a unc, big east schools, etc...

Biggin--didn't you spend an entire thread trying to tell me the exact opposite about Duke? LMAO

[Biggin]

Biggin--didn't you spend an entire thread trying to tell me the exact opposite about Duke? LMAO

No you said Duke player sdont leave early on a regular basis.
Duke has them leave on a regular basis, but not as many as UNC, etc..

[CoeburnCane]

No you said Duke player sdont leave early on a regular basis.
Duke has them leave on a regular basis, but not as many as UNC, etc..

Proves my point that you didn't read anything and attributed words to me I didn't post/say.

I said Duke players don't have players leave early nearly as often as UNC, etc...you misread and thought I said that Duke players never leave.

I'll thank you kindly to take note of that.

[Biggin]

You are so full of **** dude.

You never said ANYTHING about Duke not having as many players leave early as UNC. I brought it up because you said that Duke does not recruit the same kind of kids, the kids that leave early.

I just re-read the thread. You said Duke does not recruit the same kind of kids that UNC does, which I proved was false. You also said Duke rarely has kids that leave school early, which was also false.

How bout this:
If you can find your quote in the other thread that says specifically that Duke does not have near as many kids that go pro early as UNC, and I will admit I am wrong.

The quote was that Duke does not recruit the same kind of people that UNC recruits, not that Duke doesn't have as many players that leave early compared to UNC.

Here were some of your quotes from the other thread:

Which is why I say for the most part--they get higher rated recruits, but ones that will likely stay at Duke for 3-4 years and are moreso geared towards being student athletes (just by taking on Duke's Ivy League style cirriculum) than a kid going to UNC is

One more gem, in response to my post that asked you if you were denying that Duke has as many kids leave early as many other big time schools:

Not at all. And when you're talking about the history of kids leaving early at Duke versus many other D1 schools, Duke's had a lot less. Maybe not in the past 5 years you mentioned, but overall--what I said was correct.

So, show me the post where you said that Duke does not have as many players leave early every year as UNC, and show me where I said that was false.

Balls in your court

[TheBeast]

Don't care to rehash that whole other thread but I would venture to wager that Duke is far below any other bigtime schools numbers of kids that left early. Duke had never had a kid leave early till Elton Brand in 1999-00.

[CoeburnCane]

You are so full of **** dude.

And you can't read, so we're even.

The quote was that Duke does not recruit the same kind of people that UNC recruits, not that Duke doesn't have as many players that leave early compared to UNC.

One kind of leads to the other from my POV. Duke has kids that are less likely to leave early than those at UNC (which you said yourself in this current thread). That means they're a different kind of player (not as NBA ready, more academically engaged in Duke's cirriculum)...and that's for the most part vis-a-vis UNC--not 100% all the time "no Duke player ever leaves early" like you tried to attribute to me. I don't see where that point is wrong at all. I'm not saying UNC's kids are dumb and just want to go to the NBA and Duke's got a bunch of Rhodes Scholars up & down the bench--that's not what I've said at all here or in that other thread...but you keep taking that stance w/me.

UNC/Duke both recruit highly rated players--true. They recruit some of the same players--true. If they recruit the same kind of players across the board as you say, no difference between the two...then why do UNC players leave early more often than Duke players do, and why is there a stark difference in style between the two types of basketball both schools tend to play? The answer to my question is two-fold...coaching, and style of players brought in.

All I'm going to say is this--you said that Duke does not have as many kids that leave early as other schools. I said the same thing in the other thread, and you acted like I scalded you with boiling oil and argued vehemently the other side. I agree with you here, call you out for saying one thing there and then another on this thread, and you're taking offense to it.

Man up, brother.

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